24FJxxxGA70x support

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24FJxxxGA70x support

#1 Post by arco » 11 May 2017 16:28

Are the 24FJxxxGA70x MCU's not supported???
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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#2 Post by dusan.poluga » 12 May 2017 10:09

Hi,

Unfortunately the 4FJxxxGA70x series is currently not supported by our compilers.

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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#3 Post by arco » 18 May 2017 11:53

A pity...
They are already more as a year on the market. We always have to use 'old' processor types... :cry:
A more frequent update for recent CPU's would be nice. Customers often want new CPU's in their designs.
They don't accept 'you'll have to wait a year or two', but go to another developer...
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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#4 Post by ilferrari » 18 May 2017 12:47

Don't worry, if you wait another 3 years ME will surely support this chip, it's on their "wish list".

The PIC32 situation is worse. The compiler is missing support for three entire families (PIC32MM, PIC32MK, and PIC32MZ EF). PIC32MZ EC is semi-broken and NRND, so the compiler is useless for any modern PIC32 design.

Having said this, I have seen signs of improvement with compiler support recently, so I hope things will be better going forward than they have been in recent years.

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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#5 Post by dusan.poluga » 19 May 2017 14:08

Don't worry, if you wait another 3 years ME will surely support this chip, it's on their "wish list".

The PIC32 situation is worse. The compiler is missing support for three entire families (PIC32MM, PIC32MK, and PIC32MZ EF). PIC32MZ EC is semi-broken and NRND, so the compiler is useless for any modern PIC32 design.

Having said this, I have seen signs of improvement with compiler support recently, so I hope things will be better going forward than they have been in recent years.
I am sorry for the inconvenience.
We are constantly trying to improve our products.
We try to do our best. Thanks to the feedback from you, the users, we are able to achieve this.
So if some micro controller is not available at the moment in our compilers, please be patient. We will add it as soon as we can.

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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#6 Post by arco » 20 May 2017 12:22

A roadmap with fixed release times would be helpful (read: mandatory... :mrgreen: )
Things like 'We will add it as soon as we can.' simply doesn't work.
If I say to my customers 'I can make your firmware hopefully somewhere in the next few years' they run away to another developer.
(one who has the right tools to support the desired microcontroller.)
One of them waited on support for the 24fj128GA20x. That came, but way, way too late...
(these MCU's where more as 3 years(!) on the market as finally they were supported)
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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#7 Post by dusan.poluga » 22 May 2017 09:51

Hi,

We have a compiler roadmap that can be found on the link.
https://learn.mikroe.com/dspic-compilers-roadmap/
It contains information on what is supported so far and what will be supported in the next releases of the update.

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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#8 Post by arco » 24 May 2017 10:53

We have a compiler roadmap that can be found on the link.
https://learn.mikroe.com/dspic-compilers-roadmap/
It contains information on what is supported so far and what will be supported in the next releases of the update.
I see nothing about next release items in that 'roadmap'... (only from past updates)
Also as said a fixed next release date would be needed. That keeps the pressure on your side, and security on our side... (that's what they call 'commitment on the job'... :) )
(for instance, time between updates in past sometimes was 1.5 years)
I suppose adding some new MCU's isn't that difficult to do? (I think if we could do it ourselves it would be a matter of days...)
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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#9 Post by ilferrari » 24 May 2017 14:20

They set the release date a few months before. I think it will probably be scheduled after the ARM or PIC32 update this summer.

What we have today is far better than previous years. The last dsPIC update took 2.5 years, and there were several false release dates posted on the forum here.

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Re: 24FJxxxGA70x support

#10 Post by dusan.poluga » 25 May 2017 16:57

Hi,

Than you for your suggestions. I will pass them to my colleagues.
We will try to put out progress updates more recently in the near future.
I am sorry for the inconvenience.

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