Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

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Dxmaxim
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Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#1 Post by Dxmaxim » 18 Jul 2014 15:52

Hey All,

I noticed that the MikroC compiler for DSPIC devices only has a USB-HID boot loader. Granted, I have not done any research yet I just thought I would put the question out there and see what the answer was.

Is there a particular reason why there does not seem to be a serial boot loader as there is with the 8 BIT 16F / 18 F Devices ?

My particular interest would be to bootload a 30F4013 or a 30F2010 device . . .

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Re: Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#2 Post by filip » 21 Jul 2014 13:51

Hi,

We implemented HID bootloaders where there was a USB HID library, due to the better performance of the USB HID module.

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Re: Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#3 Post by RobinD » 05 Oct 2014 06:15

Hi,

A USB bootloader is a great extra but a serial bootloader would acutally make a lot of sense because all dsPIC devices would support serial bootloading. There are only a few dsPIC models that actually have USB. It is not a feature that almost all of them have, rather the other way around. According to this (http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/D ... 01308g.pdf) microchip document non of the dsPIC30F have USB, also only a few dsPIC33F have USB and a few more dsPIC33E have it but nowhere near half of them have USB implemented.
Also the serial interface is fast enough for many people using a bootloader, considering that a bootloader usually only uploads a firmware the size of max 512kb.

Are you considering the release of a universal serial bootloader for all PICs with or without USB?

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Re: Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#4 Post by filip » 06 Oct 2014 14:46

Hi,

I see your point now.

I will speak to our developers, maybe we will developer serial UART bootloader for the dsPICs without USB module, and maybe even universal bootloader.

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Re: Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#5 Post by lololafripouille » 23 May 2016 12:18

Hello :)

Im very interested in a serial bootloader for dspic33EP family without USB peripheral.

Do you have any news ?

Thank you :)

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Re: Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#6 Post by p.erasmus » 24 May 2016 19:17

You will wait a long time for mE to do this ,a serial bootloader was asked already 5 years ago with the release of the very first dsPIC30 devices
it still remains a promise use this
http://picbootloader.com/
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Re: Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#7 Post by lololafripouille » 26 May 2016 10:15

Hello p.erasmus :)

The ds30 Loader is a very great bootloader but it is not free for the dsPIC33E family :(
You have to pay 150€ and I think it is just for one MCU, not an open source firmware like the free version.
It is too much for me.

By the way, MikroE used the ds30 Loader for Mikromedia for dsPIC33 and it is working just beautiful :)

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Re: Serial Bootloader for DSPIC devices

#8 Post by p.erasmus » 26 May 2016 17:13

Here is the Microchip free boot loader for dsPIC33E and PIC24E devices supports UART and some other means

http://www.microchip.com/SWLibraryWeb/p ... Bootloader
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